disagreed over everything i'm a trading, personnel, new products. >> i don't think that's true. i think this is overblown. did anyone go back and say steve jobs was too demanding a boss? bill gross has a 40 year investment track record and no one should question that. >> how much freedom did fund managers have to make decisions that differed from his new? >> a ton, the equity managers that work for me had complete control over their portfolios. pimco is worried about greece, then equity manager would not start buying greek stocks. short of extreme positions, the equity managers have full discretion. >> does he mind of people make i can take with them? >> i looked them in the eye every day and it was not an issue. >> you wrote a note cutting entitlements, do you still believe that? >> we need to have an honest conversation about that, all the commitments we have made.